[split] The SUPER EPIC!! debate about paid MyBB modifications!

[Pirata Nervo]

(05-11-2010 04:32 PM)Harry Wrote:  Thanks. And that is NOT what i wanted to see BUT it does not surprise me considering the attitude problems which i know all to well. Called over confidence.. What happens when you get people who are only in it for the money and or looking to make a quick buck off a opensource project rather then go out and get a real job. Sorry but i have a low opinion of those who take advantages of others by doing such crap. And yes they are taking advantage because of the lack of plugin authors and because MYBB aids them as well by doing such crap as having all the paid plugins sites on that page and allowing them to post their crap on the main forums and then sending people to those sites. As you said a number of them are small and silly and certainly not deserving of a price tag NO MATTER how many come with the subscription. That gets on my nerves too. The oh you are getting a bargain because we have alot of plugins and you are only paying one small price for them all. Give me a damn break. As said they should not even be listed on a pay site period but they are and it is because they know nobody is around to put out a free version. One guy has a stupid Meta Tags plugin on his paid site. Just WOW! What a loser to be trying to get money for something like that. Tell's me as well the person is not too bright ( charging for something so stupid )  and thus does not instill confidence in his work. If it is not that then he is very arrogant to be charging for such a thing and thus again someone i would rather not do business with. No different then a terrible used car salesmen trying to sell you crap. Why i will NEVER subscribe to any of those sites. I wish others would follow along and avoid them too. They actually EVER contribute some code to the community and stop charging for BS and i will rethink it. Till then they can suck it. I would rather pay for IPB and get the feature already built in and better coded/supported then pay one of them a nickle.

Ofcourse now they will get even more protection ( attitudes will get worse ) from the MYBB staff because the money they are sending in for that domain donation drive. Thus i suspect it will get even worse overall and certainly don't expect to see any changes in the near future. Good thing i don't need alot of stuff/plugins  because if i did my forum software would have changed. Again if you are gonna charge for something make sure it is decent and not crap. What that means is something that is DIFFERENT and alot of care was put into it's development. Sorry but most plugins for forum software do not fall into that. What does fall into that is stuff that is done on a per site thing and thus personalized for that site. That is what i would and DO pay for. This is why people always have charged for decent themes even on systems like phpbb. Most of them are personalized for the sites/people that buy them. Again a number of the themes on MYBB being charged for shouldn't be either. Again people are taking advantage of the situation and it is bs. Wanna know what a good theme is see Skin by Dragonfly.. They do REAL professional skins for IPB. That is what i would pay for and that is what should be charged for. Plus I have seen a far better selection of free themes that would be more worthy then the paid ones some are charging for. Again a few trying to make a quick buck.. Oh looky i added a drop down menu and so i can charge 5-10-25 or whatever for the theme. NOT! That is NOT what makes a theme. They should not even be listed on the forum. Again only stuff that contributes to the project  ( thus shared in the downloads section ) should be posted on the forums. If they have a site they wanna do support at fine but the plugin release thread will have that plugin available on mybb. No exceptions.

I probably notice it more and have a different opinion/attitude because i have been around long before there was a MYBB and have seen a number of opensource projects grow from nothing and remember well what it was and still is ( in most cases ) all about. Again phpbb/FF etc got where they are thanks to their dedication to opensource development which is about exchanging and sharing ideas to help better the project and or script. Not about trying to milk people for every little dime they have as a growing number of these plugin authors are now doing. And yeah it pisses me off because as said i think MYBB is a great script and has tons of potential but instead stupidity is ruling the day because of friendships with the plugin authors and a load of other personal crap and thus the attitudes. I also think lack of maturity has a bit to do with this and thus the attitudes and lack of understanding on such issues. I'll leave it at that.


And yeah look at that 3rd party list. Sad to say the least. Again i don't think they realize how ridiculous it looks to have them there on such a project. Where in the hell are the sites who are opensource minded? Not a single  one.

And sorry man but i really wish you would not let them win. Your quitting is basically giving them what they want and thus less competition and what is worse is you atleast know what you are doing. I really do hope you rethink this. Atleast maybe keep this site going and adding stuff to it. I admit i can understand your lack of desire for the MYBB forum but atleast here you can avoid that drama.

I didn't read the whole post, you should use the Enter key more often, it's hard to read your posts right now, it's getting late here

Just wanted to say that apart from My Achievements, I do not "make paid plugins"  to be rich like you're saying.
I did it for two reasons:
* Pay the host and domain - I make plugins, host them on my site, give free support to lots of users and I gain nothing? I'd rather not release anything and use them on my sites only than doing everything for free and losing money.
* I can't be bored to give support to stupid people. Sorry but it's true, a lot of MyBB users are too young and can't understand basic things and I usually had to answer about 5 stupid questions (which were answered in the documentation but people didn't bother to read it) every day when I supported MyPlaza Turbo. Plus if I had released all plugins I made for free it would be something like 20~30 stupid questions per day. I have better things to do than answering questions all day. So that was a plus for paid plugins, people were older and had more experience (theoretically) and even if they asked stupid questions, they paid for support so I had to answer them.

I also believe in freedom of speech and I'm not in agreement with the MyBB staff right now.