[split] The SUPER EPIC!! debate about paid MyBB modifications!

[Pirata Nervo]

(06-03-2010 07:29 AM)Harry Wrote:  Come on now. We are talking about plugins for a free forum system. No way would i even attempt to think about earning a living doing that. This too is part of the problem which i am glad you mentioned. Thus some thinking they can make a living off of plugins for a free forum script. That's not good.

I can do that if I want to. Just because the FORUM SCRIPT is free, it doesn't mean EXTENSIONS for it must be. (from an ethical point of a view, not license point of view)

(06-03-2010 07:29 AM)Harry Wrote:  The other issue is how far back development is getting and thus no real advancements in forum software for a while now. Unsure of what but the last biggest thing to come along was either the social stuff or the plugin system. That has now been how long ago? Most of what we have today was thanks to the modifcations communities on these forums of days past. Now hardly anyone wants to help advance it all and i strongly believe that is because as is they can make a quick buck instead. Leaves little incentive to create/think of ways to further advance it. Most of the stuff now being charged for has been in mod/plugin form for a good while and thus nothing hardly new or unique. It is too easy as is.
I think part of that is because of a new generation that has arrived. The older ones and or ones who were around back in the early 2000s and before were more focused on advancing everything and thus the stronger desire to share and work together.

I'm going to show how you're wrong.
Imagine I join the team because I want to help the team and advance development. Imagine I would still sell my plugins. I'd get flamed by people like you everytime someone mentioned paid plugins. Not sure what's the fun in joining the team if I'm going to get flamed and blamed for the problems of MyBB.
I'd rather not join the team and continue to develop plugins.

(06-03-2010 07:29 AM)Harry Wrote:  

(06-03-2010 03:36 AM)MattF Wrote:  

(06-02-2010 05:09 PM)Harry Wrote:  Alot of people have waited a long time for a great script with great support and developement to come along which we now have with MYBB and i'll be dammed if i am gonna sit idle and let a few turn it to crap for their self serving interest. And yeah that is exactly what is gonna happen the moment MYBB make adjustments to the license so you all can have your closed licenses for the plugins. MYBB will be seen as a total JOKE by many because a supposed opensource/GPL project caved in to those few who as well happen to have donated the most to the project.  Need not say how that looks.

Create a fork of the MyBB project if you are so vehement about keeping every aspect of it free, in all senses of the term. You have said that you're willing to provide your work for free:

Quote:If they make use of my work i will be delighted. I don't need $$$ as a form of a thank you. Yes a simple thank you is very nice as well. My joy comes from HELPING others and not taking advantage of them because i know how to code and they don't.

Fork it. You'll then have total control over the licence and enforcing it. What better way to serve the community than forking the project? You suggest the existing team are being manipulated, so they obviously cannot be trusted to do so.

Believe me i am really considering doing just that. Matter of putting a team together. Which yeah i do check and see if there is interest. Something like this is not just something done on the fly or you end up with the other disasters we have seen by others who have done just that. Personally i would rather not and just help make MYBB better. Thus why i am discussing all of this.

Sure, it's easier to say "Personally i would rather not and just help make MYBB better." than actually forking it, right? I haven't seen you helping MyBB yet, nor forking it.

(06-03-2010 08:35 AM)Harry Wrote:  

(06-03-2010 02:10 AM)Pirata Nervo Wrote:  I'll ask myself, why is NewPoints free? Well that's simple, it's exactly because I want it to be free. Now, I don't have to answer stupid support questions regarding all of my plugins without getting anythign in exchange. I'd rather keep all of them on my Desktop and not sharing them with people. And don't say that this is immature or arrogant or selfish because it's not. It's what I've done, I can do whatever I want with it.

Sorry for quoting the same thing twice but i have a question/some thoughts  related to this.

I guess this where i may be considered a odd ball. But why not sell that ( NewPoints ) vs say all the stupid little plugins ? This IS something i know a ton of time went into unlike the others?

You see my thinking is that the small stuff equal the advertisers/appetizers  ( whatever you wish to call it ) to the bigger ones such as that New points of yours. You follow me? Then as well people see all the little add ons for that plugin of yours and say wow that looks even more tempting. See what i am saying?

Not really. Care to elaborate?