[split] The SUPER EPIC!! debate about paid MyBB modifications!

[Pirata Nervo]

(05-13-2010 05:33 AM)Harry Wrote:  

(05-12-2010 11:40 PM)Pirata Nervo Wrote:  My point is very simple: I coded the plugins, I am free to sell them or just give them away for free. I sell some of them and you're not forced to buy them, only if you want them. It's simple and I am not forced to give it to you for free.
Imo it's not the paid plugins that are "destroying" MyBB, it has nothing to do with it, there will always be developers which will code free plugins, even I will.
If they want to make money off it, they're free to do it. But according to you Harry, we should be forced to release anything we make (even if for our own websites only, we should release anything we code) for free just because you want. That's what I got from your posts and I'm sorry but I can't agree with that.

No that is not what i am saying. Have them at your sites. All i am saying is that they should NOT be posted on the MYBB community forums. It does not promote or foster a opensource project at all. Do you see this at phpbb? No you do not and there has never been a problem with it either and YET despite having a crappy software they thrive bigtime with massive donations and everything else. Sorry but all those paid modifications ARE a HUGE part of the problem at MYBB. It is why we see constant bickering and everything else. And ofcourse now nobody wants to try and do anything to help and thus see why zinga here has lost the desire to be a part of there. As said above myself and many others were around long before the paid plugins and watched a number of opensource projects grow from nothing into something huge ( much bigger then mybb ) without those paid plugins. Most people made extra money by helping others develop their sites via coding or design and that sort of thing. Still much better money in that too.

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(05-12-2010 07:13 PM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  

(05-12-2010 01:55 PM)Harry Wrote:  Look at it this way. What does paid plugins really encourage? It encourages more to do the same. Oh look i can make a fast buck so hell why not just charge for these plugins.

To be fair, that's one way to do things.
If you attract business, then it's a way to gain popularity.  Ultimately, the project exists to be used - being open source is one factor, but if it attracts money, then people will contribute.

I still think you're just assuming things purely from your viewpoint.  Let's go with your assumption that it does indeed encourage people to charge for everything.  According to what I'm picking up, this attracts more and more people to do the same.  What does that do?  It increases competition.  And when competition goes up, these sorts of things start to fall apart, for similar reasons many (not all) people use MyBB in favour of paid forum systems.

You know better then that. Again explain to me why phpbb and many other opensource projects have thrived without the paid plugins? Why have they not seen the petty issues and or crap that has invaded mybb?

Sorry but they are a huge part of the problem and always will be as long as they are there on the community forums. And ofcourse MYBB will never be taken serious by larger/older sites. 1.4 should have done that for mybb but it did not ( yeah it got a few over but a few have given up and left too ) and this issue of the paid plugins and the mod community and heck mybb community forums is the main reasons why i hear many avoid it or have left.

Could you please elaborate why paid plugins are the cause of MyBB's problem? If they suddenly disappeared, would the problems disappear too? Which problems are related to paid plugins? I'd like you to answer these questions in detail if possible, I don't really see any sense in your reply to be honest.
Plus, I haven't seen Yumi saying he left the MyBB website because of paid plugins as you said. Why would someone leave a website because someone else is selling plugins?