Poll to express opinions concerning Bob Jansen

[Harry]

(07-19-2010 08:14 PM)Pirata Nervo Wrote:  

(07-19-2010 09:33 AM)Harry Wrote:  

(07-19-2010 09:01 AM)Pirata Nervo Wrote:  

(07-19-2010 08:48 AM)Harry Wrote:  

(07-19-2010 08:39 AM)Pirata Nervo Wrote:  

(07-19-2010 08:29 AM)Harry Wrote:  

(07-19-2010 06:41 AM)Pirata Nervo Wrote:  

(07-18-2010 10:16 PM)Lich_king2 Wrote:  I wanted to say if we got rid of the script kiddie "source" half of the problems with payed plugins and whining would be gone. Also if ''his'' plugins follow GPL license, he shouldn't be allowed to issue C&D letters or DMCA. Can't we get rid of annoyances and remake the community to enjoy the software?

Again, I think you're referring to labrocca (?), next time please mention names otherwise I have to guess them which is not easy sometimes.
Anyway, yes his plugins do not follow the GPL license neither do mine. However, I could still force someone else's website to be closed temporarily until my plugins were removed from there in case that website was giving out plugins with a license not compatible with GPL (if my plugins were GPL).

Ummm.. No you could not. IF they change to a non GPL i suppose but that is it. Where the heck do some of you all get these ideas from?

Sorry but any of yours/labroccas etc plugins can be redistributed by ANYONE if they so feel like it and nothing any of you all can do. You all did not follow the GPL and thus are the ones at fault for trying to slap a non compatabile GPL license on your stuff. Sure you can sell it but whatever the person does with it is their own business as long as the GPL itself is respected.

I suggest you to re-read my post. Anyway to save you time, I'll highlight it for you:

Quote:Again, I think you're referring to labrocca (?), next time please mention names otherwise I have to guess them which is not easy sometimes.
Anyway, yes his plugins do not follow the GPL license neither do mine. However, I could still force someone else's website to be closed temporarily until my plugins were removed from there in case that website was giving out plugins with a license not compatible with GPL (if my plugins were GPL).

And read MINE again. You violated the GPL. Your plugins are supposed to be GPL atleast till MYBB goes LGPL. End of story. So anything you have done up to this point is GPL regardless of whatever non GPL license you are trying to push because that license is invalid. Again if i or anyone else subscribes wanted we could release your plugins for free or whatever else and not a thing you can do. I invite you to try and shut down any website and see what happens the moment the hosting provider finds out that MYBB is GPL as should it's plugins be. You may end up in bigger trouble especially if the site you caused to be taken offline loses income over it.

What it boils down to.. ALL of your mybb plugins/themes have to be GPL. If they are not that is on YOU but again nothing you can do if someone decides to wanna redistribute them. ZERO.. That is because MYBB is still GPL..

Oh well, I'll tell you to re-read my post again...as I've said, WHAT I SAID ONLY APPLIES IF MY PLUGINS WERE GPL

Regardless if they are or not the GPL overrides it. They are GPL no matter what license you ( or anyone else )  tried to use. YOUR license is invalid... So yeah they can be redistributed if the people buying them wants to do that. Sorry but just because you slap on a non compatible GPL license doesn't make it legal and will never hold up in a court of law or with trying to shut down a site for distributing them.

Since you're so obsessed with it, you just won't understand it. I don't really care anyway, I wasn't talking about my plugins being GPL or not, just explaning that I could force someone to get my plugins off his/her website if my plugins were GPL and that user was releasing my plugins under a non-GPL license.

If you still don't understand, I'll just skip your posts.

However, as zinga said, it's not very clear because no one knows if I have coded my own API that is similar to MyBB. No one knows it except me!

@exdiogene I believe you're incorrect this time GPL is known as a viral license exactly because once an API is GPL and some software uses it, it's automatically GPL. LGPL allows MyBB not to force plugins to be GPL.

(07-20-2010 04:13 AM)Pirata Nervo Wrote:  

(07-20-2010 04:11 AM)Harry Wrote:  

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(07-20-2010 04:07 AM)Harry Wrote:  

(07-20-2010 04:05 AM)Pirata Nervo Wrote:  

(07-20-2010 04:03 AM)Harry Wrote:  

(07-20-2010 03:55 AM)Pirata Nervo Wrote:  

(07-20-2010 03:04 AM)Harry Wrote:  

(07-20-2010 02:58 AM)Pirata Nervo Wrote:  

(07-20-2010 02:54 AM)Harry Wrote:  

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(07-20-2010 02:41 AM)Harry Wrote:  

(07-20-2010 02:35 AM)Pirata Nervo Wrote:  Sure Harry...

Your the one who wants me gone for correcting a lie. Your the one blaiming me for starting this paid vs free crap when i have not even mentioned it. Lying again i might add. All i did was make a correction about what was said about the license and plugins.

Basically same shit as always. You people are unbelievable. I have no problem with someone trying to make a honest buck ( even mentioned the GPL allows it and even encourages it ) but when lying is adding to a mix which you all did you damn well better believe i am gonna say something.

Since discussing with you doesn't really make me benefit because for you there's always only one side: yours. I'll keep saying okay.

Well then tell me where i am wrong.

AGAIN.. All i did was mention that plugins for MYBB are to follow the same GPL MYBB has. Where am i wrong?

I won't argue with you anymore, fortunately my life is not the internet and the time I spend here should not be arguing with you. Bye

Only one arguing is YOU. But you go on with the attempts at making me look like a bad guy for telling the truth. Nice to see what kind of person you really are.

Oh and sorry Yumi.. I do apologize for this all getting to this point. I did not realize some people would rather hide behind LIES and would get pissed off because a little truth was added to the mix. Again i appreciate what you and the others who remain honest do but i have no use for those who lie.

It's interesting that you always write your comments to make it like we're the bad guys and you're always the victim. By reading your comments, we're always trying to incriminate you of something, this is what I find most interesting in your posts. And in the end of every conversation you always say that "it explains what kind of person you really are", I can go to the other thread you know and quote this sometimes in your posts.

Oh and stop trying to show "how good you are" in front of Yumi, you seem more like a kid trying to show "how good you are" in order to get a candy. In portuguese we call it (directly translated to English: ) "licking his boots".
Yumi is not stop stupid.
What makes me wonder is if you're really 40 years old as you claim so..if you're really 40 years old, you should be mature enough to put an end in a conversation.

P.S. stop calling me liar, if you have no proof of that then that's a crime and you have no proof that I'm lying. Oh nevermind, once again only your side is right so yeah I'm a liar because yes only your point of view of the GPL licence is correct, sorry I forgot about that. And now that I think of it, you should probably read Yumi's post regarding the GPL license, it is not similar to your point of view.

Finally I'm really tired of this and I'm done with this conversation with you. If you want to keep insulting me and if you want to keep playing your mind games, continue to do so but I'm out.

Only one playing games and bending the truth is you. Now you are gonna stoop to the level of questioning my age because i corrected a lie? WOW.. That btw is called being a adult. ONLY kids/children tend to lie.

Unlike yourself i wont stoop to the other childish insults. All i will say is that you are a POS and from this point forward i will do whatever it takes to make damn sure people avoid doing business with your dishonest ass.

Feel free to do whatever you want Harry

Believe me i will.. Not many that i know of will wanna do business with dishonest people such as yourself.

Harry, as you can imagine I do not care about what you do or not do. People know I'm honest and you can ask whoever you want that has done business with me and they'll answer you. It's not because of someone who insults me on every post that people will start not to believe me.

I am pretty sure they did not see the crap you have posted in this thread. Only one who did/started the insulting was you BECAUSE you couldn't handle the truth as always.

Quote me where I insulted you please. And people who pay me to code software do not care about paying for plugins and they do not care about anything that I have posted in this thread which has nothing disrespectful at all.

Nice edit work.. lol

Also..
1. AGAIN.. I dont care if people wanna make a quick buck off of a plugin. This IS insulting because you keep trying to twist what i say around.

2. You told me to leave the board because i posted a fact about MYBB plugins.

3. This is and has been about MYBB plugins. You and others attempted to make it about something else. Thats gives me the impression you are trying to cover up the lie about redistributing MYBB plugins and what can happen to someone if they do. What Yumi posted was about stuff that did not totally relate to MYBB plugins. That wasn't a lie.

4. You lied about me making this a free vs paid debate which i did no such thing. Again that is insulting.


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